get a ticket, never talk or text while driving, respect the privilege of using your car, and never n signed by you, jonathan. i think that's so great. you did this because of the loss of derek? >> yeah, yeah. one--one thing we were paranoid about was jonathan driving. and jonathan even had a hard time driving after that. so i just felt that on his honor, if he signed the contract, he would obey those laws. >> that's amazing. oprah: yeah. so you were the first no phone zone. >> yes. yes. oprah: yeah. you were a no phone zone before we did. >> you know, i have--yeah. i have to tell you, i--you know, you always have that moment when you're on television about whether or not you're going to share something that's so personal. and there's always that moment where you can make that decision to do it oprah: or not to. >> or toh: you say, "do i cr oprah: you say, "do i crack myself open for the world?" >> right, exactly. do i crack myself open for the world? and if i do, why? what can come of it? and so, i'm so sorry for your loss, and i know that grief is not a straight path. i know it's li
